I can't seem to find some of the character songs (Stereo-Cassette King, The Mountain, Sunshine, Kinnikuman Great, etc.) on YouTube anymore. Anyone got any links?
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Due to Fandom changes, much of our CSS and code no longer works.
This means headers are inconsistently bolded, and tabs/subpages no longer work on mobile devices. To make sure our mobile users get the same content, we have put all Kinnikuman and Mantaro Kinniku content back onto one page.
We'll have to talk amongst the moderators to see how pages such as Kinkeshi or Minor Characters will be best be handled, due to this very much needing subpages (as the sheer content size otherwise makes them impossible to edit or sometimes even view). At present, the tabs for these pages work, but are just a little unclear, so it may be that they are left for practicality and function.
Feel free to leave any suggestions or comments.
As you may know, Stygies VIII acted as our Wiki Representative.
The role of a Wiki Representative (previously known as a Wiki Manager) is a vital role that allows a community to have a direct line to staff, as well as a mean to ask for help and advice if and when this is needed. They support a wiki behind-the-scenes and sometimes as centre stage, and mediate disputes between users or between users and staff when these may occur.
Stygies VIII enabled us to leave feedback about changes, helped us with bugs and glitches, and checked various articles when required. He answered various queries and found solutions to many issues. It was with his help that the wiki is able to function as well as it does today, to which we thank him.
Unfortunately, Stygies VIII is no longer a Wiki Representative.
We regret this is the case, especially as he was a professional and friendly face that represented all we wish Fandom could properly embody, and he restored much trust in the company at times when this was lacking. We wish him all the best of luck in his future endeavours, and reiterate our appreciation of him.
If you have time, please do send him words of thanks.
In the meantime, we will update you if/when we receive a new WR.
We have recently implemented a few small changes:
Quotes have been moved
Dark Mode has been fixed
Tabbers have been reduced
I will admit that quotes were very popular, and I personally also loved them, but there is a small issue with the SEO and 'Best Practises', which we were recently made aware by Fandom staff. We figured it was best to accordingly move the quotes to their own sections . In return, we will work on better ledes (concise, yet more informative for new users).
Kiwismurf and Stygies have been amazing help in fixing the Dark Mode. Stygies helped us to fix our Navigation Boxes, and Kiwismurf - on their own time and completely out of good will - helped us fix our tabbers and backgrounds (which now show optimally on all screens). We can't thank them enough! If you're signed up to Fandom, feel free to take a look at our Dark Mode!
The tabbers are our last change. I know these were popular with users, but they are not at all recommended by Fandom and detrimental to SEO. We were recommended by both our Wiki Representative, and other staff members, against using them . . . we have thus retained them only on strictly necessary pages. At present, this includes: kinkeshi, minor characters, Perfect Origin Arc, and Kinnikuman. The latter two are so ridiculously long that they present loading issues when all on one article, as well as an organisational nightmare.
We hope this better explains the recent changes!
Do feel free to express any concerns or ask any questions.
Fandom is implementing a new desktop experience.
A part of this is the introduction of a Light/Dark feature. We are currently working on this between our administrators and wiki representative, and believe we shall be on track to have it complete in time for a full roll-out. In the meantime, you can voluntarily opt-in - as a signed-in user - to make use of our new themes. In terms of tweaks that will come over time:
We're aware that the background/banner image isn't ideal, but this is due to the fact it changes position due to both screen and window size. JadeRonin will soon be working on these images, so they will improve accessibility soon
We're aware the navigation boxes and tabbers are too bright for Dark Mode, and we have asked our Wiki Representative to lend a hand in tweaking this to better fit the theme for users
In the meantime, Light Mode should work perfectly (sans the banner image that may hide a few icons depending on screen size). The Dark Mode mostly works as intended, but we will add a new banner image (likely Robin and Kevin, to complement Mantaro and Suguru), and fix the colour of tabbers and navigation boxes. This will be fixed as soon as possible.
We hope you enjoy the new themes!
This has been a recurring issue during our administration of the wiki.
We are thus opening it up to a community consensus, and wish to ask our users which term they prefer: Fire of Inner Strength or Burning Inner Strength.
The Fire of Inner Strength has been used by some groups, such as the Machineguns, and "the Fire" is used extensively in the official manga. Burning Inner Strength has been traditionally used by various groups, but is currently used by the Hercules Factory. In the absence of an official name, we have decided it best to take a vote on matters.
Banned - or recently banned - users may not vote.
Please comment below with your preference.
We have multiple editors on this site, and each and every one is valued and appreciated. We may all have different styles, or preferences, or priorities, but it's our collaboration as a group that enables the wiki to thrive and be a valued source for the community.
I'm particular, I want to thank Dahumorist for his focus on the anime, and Josh for his focus on the 2011 run. I know I'd be unable to update those pages, as would a lot of others, but - thanks to their tireless dedication - what would be a blank space has great bounds of information for any reader or editor to use.
There's a lot of negativity in the world today, but our editors help to carve out a positive space and make constructive contributions that others may feel unable or unwilling to make. There's not enough thanks in the world, and I only hope they will all remain a part of our community.
To any new editors, too, do feel free to join our small family 🙂
In terms of blocks:
There are currently no blocks in place. This means anyone and everyone is welcome to edit the wiki, so long as they have an account. We currently have anonymous editing turned off, due to vandalism from specific users and reasonable cause to believe this would be a reoccurrence, but otherwise there are no limits on users, editors, and readers. Please do join us!
We recommend to read our "Rules" in the Top Navigation, though! :)
In terms of protection:
There is currently no protection to non-vital pages, which means that any user - even new users - can edit pages as they need or want. We will implement temporary protections, if need arises, but will not implement permanent protection of any kind, so as to allow our community to thrive.
The exceptions are rules and templates, which are integral to the working of the wiki, and the "Deep of Muscle" pages. The latter is because these are the only source of such content in the English fandom, and they are in a unique position of being translations, which means they need to be as accurate as possible and potential vandalism would have consequences for the fandom, as it would affect their ability to enjoy this source of content.
We welcome all users and contributions!
It's the work of you, our editors, that makes our wiki great :)
We are currently in the process of posting "Deep of Muscle".
The current copyright rules on Fandom mean that an editor may only upload a translation that they themselves have translated, but - in turn - anyone may freely use their translations for any means .
Do feel free to edit/correct any mistakes in uploaded "Episodes", and also do feel free to upload your own translations to episodes yet to be written (but just remember others may use your works).
It may take time for all twenty-two to be translated.
Thank you for your patience.
Just wanted to share that the episode 16th link goes to the episode 15th article instead of the 16th... please correct if possible.
In defence of myself and editors:
The other criticism I'm seeing is that this wiki has "favourites" in regards to articles, and we may neglect some other articles, which upsets certain users that vocalise - off-site - that the articles they want to see are not being prioritised or given content that they wish to see added. To this, I say:
You need to express criticism in appropriate places
And yes, we do have personal favourites
To the first: we have a "requests" section on our wiki Discord, and we also have this Discuss feature for people to leave wiki comments, and on either you can express your concerns to us and allow us to maybe add content that you want to see added. By ranting on places like Twitter, where we might not have accounts, check, or know about -? We have no means to know criticism was even made, let alone that you are expecting replies or changes.
To the second: we are editing this wiki for free , , , we are three editors that each have different likes and dislikes, and editing for a huge franchise, all for a wiki that was left in diabolical condition from a past administrator, and to which - even now with Alkaid and Jade's help - we're still fixing up to be the best that it can be, in hopes of one day gaining an Official status.
One editor seems to prefer collating information and minor characters, another editor seems to be a huge fan of 2011 material (especially techniques and matches), and - for myself - I prefer certain sets of characters and keeping their stories updated that may have sections missing, especially OG ones.
We don't owe you to edit x pages or y sections, but we will always try to edit those pages anyway when brought up to us, because this is a community project and we wat to help other people. I've often edited certain pages that I may have otherwise ignored due to requests from people. If you won't come to us with your requests, there's one other solution:
Join the wiki and update the articles you want updated.
Sadly, you do have to create an account; anonymous editing tends to be abused by vandals, such as Paddy, when it's enabled, and ironically by the same people making these complaints and criticisms (all off-site where it's unlikely we'll ever see them, or not see them for huge lengths of time). I find it ironic people who think the wiki is so "bad" would purposely make it worse.
This isn't an issue with our current editors (who are amazing), but more to do with past editors, some of which who are making complaints on social media about some facts being included and some "facts" not. I wanted to address why some things, such as ages, may not be included on the wiki.
We only allow information that can be referenced.
We acknowledge that not all information on the wiki is referenced, mainly in regard to some story sections, but we tend to overlook this, as references can easily be added in at a later date and it's easy to just read x section of the manga to find those references/facts. In terms of trivia, stats, etc. we always insist on references, especially as these can be harder to find for users.
There are some character with explicit ages; Mantaro starts as a 14yo, Kinkotsuman is in his 70's in Nisei despite being in his 20's in the OG, Kevin Mask starts as 18yo . . . we can reference these facts. They are facts, even when they sometimes contradict other facts, and even when we may personally disagree with designs, personalities, etc. that match ages.
We have had a lot of issues in the past with people making up ages, which was a huge issue from the past administration that allowed and encouraged this, and you can see Jade alone has had several "ages" on his page.
To avoid confusion, we only allow explicitly stated ages.
N.B. We will also avoid speculation, even in Trivia, as it relies too much on "evidence" that is down to personal interpretation, and this itself invites counter-evidence, and devolves into fan-essays and theories. We would encourage anyone who wishes to explore these possibilities to create a Fanon or Headcanon wiki instead, and post such ideas there.
We're temporarily trialling anonymous editing.
It is a concern of ours, as we have had minor issues in the past, and one persistent vandaliser in particular, however there are also huge benefits to anonymous editing and a wide number of amazing potential editors, too.
If things go well, we may leave it in place.
If things are abused, we will revert back to logged-in only.
Edit: And in the shortest lived experiment ever, we're back to requiring editors to log in. The problem user this time was the IP: 184.108.40.206 - this has been tracked to the user "Paddy" of a rival server, who seems to have taken grievance with a past mistake on the image used on the Soldierman page. He has admitted to his vandalism, even posting screenshots of his "work".
It's nearly the end of a new year!
So time to discuss our new wiki changes:
New subpages/tab system for long pages
New navigation boxes
Updated pages for the "Perfect Origin Arc"
Ongoing updates for the new unnamed arc (thanks to Josh6243)
Top Navigation improvements
Minor Character pages (thanks to DaHumorist)
(Working anchoring system for the above)
New moderators and wiki managers
Updated/Working mobile main page
Unblocking of previously blocked users
Updated Community page design
Fixes to small issues from UCP migration
New character pages for new characters
Thank you again to the tireless work of our amazing community! A big shout out to Josh6234, DaHumorist, and JadeRonin! We also have huge thanks to our other editors and contributors, as well as our wonderful readers and supporters! We hope this wiki does justice to the Kinnikuman franchise.
Happy Holidays to all!
It was brought to our attention that some pages are difficult for users to read, namely due to their length and complex ordering system, and this has been particularly difficult for users with ADHD or dyslexia. We have thus tried - on a trial basis - a sub-page tab system. This will break pages into more manageable chunks, and hopefully make the wiki more accessible to all users.
The two trial pages so far are:
We are awaiting feedback from the users that brought to us their concerns, as well as our moderators, but we hope that this new compromise/feature will help those users and be implemented on all long articles in future. If not, we will continue to seek more accessible alternatives.
I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on splitting content?
That is to say keeping all "Kinnikuman" content here, but moving "Tatakae!! Ramenman" to its own wiki, where someone with more knowledge of the series could act as bureaucrat and work on articles, organisation, and content. I thought this could personally work out to better for a few reasons:
There is a huge fanbase, particularly in China, and content could be easier to find (and easier to contribute) on its own wiki
The series itself has no real link to the overall "Kinnikuman" series, aside from sharing a character with a name and appearance, and seems to be an AU spin-off series
It causes some confusion and issues in organisation, especially as we have two Ramenman characters with their own pages
We also have a lack of editors here that have read or watched the series, which means these pages tend to go neglected, as our editors focus primarily on Kinnikuman, Kinnikuman Nisei, and Kinnikuman Nisei ~All Out Assault~
This is just from personal opinion, however, as their are pros and cons to this decision, and the decision must be a community one. If it's decided for a split, I'm happy to help in migrating those pages across and creating an affiliation box on our main page to link over to there. If it's decided to keep the content together, I'm happy to concede and keep things as they stand.
Please do leave thoughts and opinions here :)
A few small issues:
We're working on tweaking the bolding/formatting
We are working on seeing if galleries can be fixed
Changes for editors:
The new editor may take a bit of getting used to, and more information and help can be found on this link: Community Central
We have removed almost all previous blocks.
The majority were IP blocks, which were considered excessive when IPs can change and people can evolve over time, and the rest were for incidents that happened away from the wiki (or were minor enough that people could have grown or changed since the block was implemented). We hope this will allow for more people to contribute and engage within the community.
Of the two exceptions:
One was a breach of our "abuse of others" rule, and we have a zero tolerance policy to hate speech and harassment. The second is one that we are happy to repeal, once the user expresses a sincere commitment to following wiki rules.
For more details of blocks, please see:
We've made two changes to the wiki:
Protection: We have removed full protection from all articles/files except for rules, main page, templates, infoboxes, and portals. This means only behind-the-scenes stuff vital for the running of the wiki is protected. We have left semi-protection only on a handful of main character pages, as well as two chapter pages that were vandalised by a troll to the wiki some time back.
This means registered users can edit almost every single article in the wiki, allowing for a greater sense of community and further editorship, and auto-confirmed users can edit every single article and file. We will temporarily protect any articles/files that may be vandalised or involved in edit wars, or that break our wiki rules, but will always try to avoid permanent protection.
Notability: We have implemented a rule that we sought to implement from the very start of our tenure as administrators, but that was impractical at the time due to a difference of opinion regarding the direction of the wiki with previous administrators. This rule is explained in full here [[Rules: Notability]]. This rule will only affect new articles going forward.
You may have noticed the article count go down in the past few days, as we eliminated stub articles that did not conform to this rule. We wish to emphasise all content has been preserved, as it has been merged with preexisting articles that better covered the topic of the aforementioned stubs. The articles also had zero hits or edits from users in many years, which supports our opinion that a Notability rule is beneficial to our community here on Fandom.
If you have any questions, concerns, or wish for any articles to be protected or unprotected -? Please do contact an administrator or content moderator, which can be found on this page: [[Wiki Info: Administrators]].